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09 September 2013

New Meme: Gaffeplomacy Is A Victory For America Or Something

'Assad giving up his chemical weapons without our military firing a single shot is a big victory for us…'

- mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 2:05 PM

This is what an ‘American victory’ looks like mnjg:

- Yesterday in Paris


‘If Assad is eating Cheerios, we’re going to take away his spoon and give him a fork. Will that degrade his ability to eat Cheerios? Yes. Will it deter him? Maybe. But he’ll still be able to eat Cheerios.’

- A second senior official, who has seen the most recent planning, describing a US strike

‘We’re not going to war. We will be able to hold [Syrian President] Bashar al-Assad accountable without engaging troops on the ground or any other prolonged kind of effort, in a very limited, very targeted, very short-term effort that degrades his capacity to deliver chemical weapons without assuming responsibility for Syria’s civil war. That is exactly what we are talking about doing; AN UNBELIEVABLY SMALL, LIMITED KIND OF EFFORT. 

- Secretary of State John Kerry, London, 9 September 2013

‘He could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week — turn it over, all of it, without delay and allow the full and total accounting.’

- Secretary of State John Kerry, this morning

In his next breath, he said:

‘Of course, he isn’t about to do that.  It can't be done.’

Which was quickly followed by this statement from the State Department:

Secretary Kerry was making a rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons he has denied he used. His (Kerry’s) point was that THIS BRUTAL DICTATOR WITH A HISTORY OF PLAYING FAST AND LOOSE WITH THE FACTS CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO TURN OVER CHEMICAL WEAPONS, OTHERWISE HE WOULD HAVE DONE SO LONG AGO. That’s why the world faces this moment.’

So, naturally, what happens next?

The Russians jump: 

‘We have passed our offer to (Syrian Foreign Minister Walid) Al-Muallem and hope to receive [a] fast and positive answer. We call on the Syrian leadership not only agree on a statement of storage of chemical weapons under international control, but also its subsequent destruction, as well as about the full accession to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. We will immediately join the work with Damascus if establishing international control over chemical weapons in that country helps prevent attacks. There cannot be any deals made with regard to Russian policy that were concluded behind the Syrian people’s back. That will not happen.’ 

- Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, today 

Then, Syria says: 

‘The Syrian Arab Republic welcomed the RUSSIAN initiative, based on the concerns of the RUSSIAN leadership for the lives of our citizens and the security of our country.’ 

- Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem, who met with Lavrov in Moscow earlier today

So does UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki-moon.

And, then, the Obama administration is forced to respond to the response to Kerry’s Gaffeplomacy:

U.S. officials say they will take a “hard look” at a proposal for Syria to surrender its chemical weapons to international control to avoid a military strike. 

State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said Monday the U.S. would consider THE PROPOSAL FLOATED BY FOREIGN MINISTERS IN RUSSIA AND SYRIA with ‘serious skepticism’ because it might be a stalling tactic. She said Syria had consistently refused to destroy its chemical weapons in the past.

The proposal came after Secretary of State John Kerry said in London on Monday that Syrian President Bashar Assad could end the crisis by turning over all his chemical weapons. Harf said Kerry wasn’t putting forth a formal proposal. 

To people like mnjg, this looks like ‘victory.’ 

For the rest of us, it’s just embarrassing.

'Laugh as much as you want… The fact is that we want to strike Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons capabilities… and without a single shot fired from our military Assad gave up his chemical weapons and to be destroyed under UN supervision… So absolutely yes, it is a huge victory for the USA…'

- mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 2:13 PM

It isn’t American power that MIGHT cause Assad to turn over his weapons cache, the size of which, by the way, no one, including the United States, has any idea by their own admission.

It’s will be a huge victory for Putin, who has played the Obama administration like a Stradivarius.

'Good, we have won the standoff against Assad if he has agreed to destroy his chemical weapons as just reported…THAT IS THE POWER OF THE USA, THE MERE THREAT OF FORCE AND OUR ENEMIES GIVE UP…'

-  mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Just like:

The British

The Spanish

The Mexicans

Imperial Germany

Imperial Japan

Nazi Germany

Fascist Italy

The Soviet Union

North Korea

The Viet Cong

Saddam Hussein

The Taliban



Moammar Qaddafi





They all gave up after the US merely threatened them. All ran and cowered in corners. /

Excuse me if I don’t pay much attention to your analysis of this situation. Your intellectual chops have been measured and found to be wanting.

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