By Billy Preston
There are people of goodwill on both sides of the abortion debate. But the Planned Parenthood side apparently decided that no one of goodwill on their side of the debate would show up during the special session in Texas. On the heels of last week’s “Hail Satan!” chant, Texans have now been treated to a disgusting attack on faith.
As members of the Texas legislature attempt to debate a bill that would ban late-term abortions after 20 weeks, abortion activists are shouting.
The typical pro-abortion chant goes something like this: “Women must decide their fate, not the church, not the state.” Bryan Kemper of Stand True relayed to LifeNews reports from his staff at the scene and says many of the dozens of abortion advocates screaming tonight in the Texas capitol are replacing “not the church” with “f— the church.”
Abortion activists haven’t covered themselves in glory in Austin. They hijacked “Amazing Grace,” have lied that they “stand for women” when they only stand for some women, have threatened to use SWAT tactics against pro-lifers, and all the while they have stood shoulder to shoulder with a greedy billion dollar corporation that has been caught in numerous lies and abuses. Not a classy run, really.
And in the end, they’re going to lose, and the bill will be passed and signed into law, because it’s right and because most Texans support it.
In Texas where the pro-aborts, who are chanting ‘Hail, Satan’ and screaming ‘Fvck the Church,’ have been rebuked and rebuffed by even THE CHURCH OF SATAN, which goes to show just how radical, extreme, and out-of-the-mainstream that they really are.
Some poll numbers:
62% of Texans support the bill banning abortions after 20 weeks now before the special session. 38% want more stringent abortion laws and 35% either believe the law should be left as it is (21%) or don’t know. ONLY 26% want more relaxed abortion laws.
Even 52% of Millennials want to ban abortions after 20 weeks.
If you want to talk about ‘extremists,’ then look no further than this stat:
Only 14% of Americans support late-term abortions.
14%! Those are the real extremists.
‘In terms of substantive policy, most of this is not particularly right-wing. Maybe the abortion stuff. These are abortion positions that are actually not strongly opposed — there is a 2-to-1 preference for that.’
– Daron Shaw, co-director of to the latest University of Texas/Texas Tribune Poll and a professor of government at the University of Texas at Austin
According to a June National Journal poll, 50% of WOMEN SUPPORT, and 43% oppose, a ban on abortion after 20 weeks, except in cases of rape and incest.
In the same NatJour poll, the results on late-term abortion (where the question is somewhat biased against the pro-life side) are even more stark. The poll's question claims the bill passed last week in the House of Representatives only contains exceptions in the cases of rape or incest without mentioning that there is also an exception for when a physical health condition puts the life of the mother at risk. Despite the biased question, the poll still finds that a majority of women support the bill (50 percent to 44 percent), with Americans overall backing the bill 48 percent to 44 percent. Independent voters back the bill by 14 points (53 percent to 39 percent).
In January, Gallup reported in January that 80% percent of Americans think abortion should be illegal in the third trimester, and 64% think it should be illegal in the second trimester.
A 21-week born alive 'foetus'
According to the Gallup poll:
Q: Do you think abortions should be legal under any circumstances, legal only under certain circumstances, or illegal in all circumstances?
26% believe that abortion should be legal under any circumstances
52% believe that abortion should be legal under certain circumstances
20% believe that abortion should be illegal in all circumstances
Q: With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life?
48% consider themselves to be pro-life
45% consider themselves to be pro-choice
Q: Next, I’ve going to read you a list of issues. Regardless of whether or nor you think it should be legal, for each one, please tell me whether you personal believe that it is morally acceptable or morally wrong. How about abortion?
42% believe it is morally acceptable
49% believe it is morally wrong
8% believe that it depends upon the situation
Q: Would you like to see the Supreme Court overturn its 1973 Roe v Wade decision concerning abortion or not?
29% say that they would like Roe overturned
53% say that do not want Roe overturned
18% say that they have no opinion (which probably means that they lean to the overturn side more than the uphold side since pro-aborts are more likely to zealously guard against the overturning of Roe. One would think that they would very much be in the ‘don’t overturn’ camp if they considered the right to an abortion to be worth defending)
The irony of this sign is, no doubt, loss on its holder
Q: Would you like to see abortion laws in this country made more strict, less strict, or remain the same?
44% say that they are satisfied with current abortion law
27% say that they are dissatisfied and want stricter abortion laws
8% say that they are dissatisfied and want less strict abortion laws
11% say that they are dissatisfied with current abortion law, but don’t want them changed (O_o)
Your Mummy needs to learn that you did not reside for 9 months in her vagina
Q: Thinking more generally, do you think abortion should generally be legal or generally illegal during each of the following stages of pregnancy.
How about during the first trimester?
61% believe that it should be legal
31% believe that it should be illegal
6% believe that it depends
Q: How about the second trimester?
27% believe that it should be legal
64% believe that it should be illegal
5% believe that it depends
Q: How about during the third trimester?
14% believe that it should be legal
80% believe that it should be illegal
4% believe that it depends
For all the talk about Hispanics and the need for Republicans to reach out to them via immigration reform, one would be led to belief that Democrats and Latinos are simpatico on everything and the GOP needs to jump aboard because the train is leaving the station. Of course, such a position completely overlooks the views of Hispanics on one of the Democrats most doctrinaire stances: abortion. The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that 53% of Hispanic Catholics say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases. That’s a lower percentage than white evangelical Protestants and Mormons, but it’s higher than all other religious voting groups, including white Catholics, white mainline Protestants, black Protestants, and Jews.
In a Politico article about the headwinds that Democrats are encountering in their attempt to 'turn Texas baby blue' (yeah, no irony there either), liberal activists are quoted as saying that they kind of knew that Hispanics in the state were pro-life and preferred to conduct their Hispanic outreach without emphasising the national Democratic Party’s unrestrained enthusiasm for abortion. The Democrats’ position on abortion conflicts with Hispanics’ religious beliefs, and it also conflicts with basic biology. Hispanics in Texas are more pro-life and pro-science than most Democrats. In other words, they recognise what they see when they look at the sonogram photographs of a 20-week-old foetus...and, it's not a 'product of conception' or a 'clump of cells.' They understand that the 'foetus' is actually a separate individual with its own face, hands, feet, heartbeat, and DNA, which is something that will never be able to be said about warts or other bodily growths.
In a country where an overwhelming majority supports bans on second and third trimester abortions, 77% of Americans still claim a religion, 68% of those that do not claim a religion nevertheless say they believe in God, and Progressives/Liberals are vastly outnumbered by those that consider themselves to be either conservatives or moderates, it probably isn’t the best way to win friends and influence people to ‘Hail Satan’ and scream ‘Fvck the Church.’
Of course, if #TeamHailSatan wants to choose late-term abortion and health safety regulations that are less stringent than those imposed on veterinarians and orthodontists as the hills on which to die, then, well, I’m not going to stand in their way…
Parental notification and consent laws in the U.S.
No parental notification or consent laws
One parent must be informed beforehand
Both parents must be informed beforehand
One parent must consent beforehand
Both parents must consent beforehand
Parental notification law currently enjoined
Parental consent law currently enjoined
Mandatory waiting period laws in the U.S.
No mandatory waiting period
Waiting period of less than 24 hours
Waiting period of 24 hours or more
Waiting period law currently enjoined
Waiting period law currently enjoined
Abortion counselling laws in the U.S.
No mandatory counselling
Counselling in person, by phone, mail, and/or other
Counselling in person only
Counselling law enjoined
Mandatory ultrasound laws in the U.S.
Mandatory. Must display image.
Mandatory. Must offer to display image.
Mandatory. Law temporarily unenforceable.
Not mandatory. Must offer ultrasound.
Not mandatory. If ultrasound is performed, must offer to display image.
Foetal homicide laws in the fifty states
'Homicide' or 'murder.'
Other crime against foetus.
Depends on age of foetus.
Assaulting pregnant woman.
Wisconsin (only the doctor hospital admitting privilege part of the recently passed law was stayed for 10 days by a Federal judge)
Post-viability defined as 24 weeks:
Post-viability defined as 24-26 weeks:
Idaho (current, more restrictive law is stayed at present)
Post-viability defined as 26 weeks:
Third trimester / 28 weeks:
Look closely at the list. It kind of blows up that whole ‘blue states are progressive and red states are regressive; blue states believe in abortion on-demand and red states want women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen’ thingy, doesn’t it?
Even in states like California, New York, and Massachusetts, people have recognised late-term abortion to be a gruesome, barbaric practise that it is…and which most of the social democracies in Europe, which American Progressives seek to emulate in all other areas, acknowledged long ago.
And, on behalf of humanity, I thank you
But, if you don't mind, please exit by answering the following questions:
Why should orthodontists be held to a higher standard than abortion providers?
Why should veterinarians be held to a higher standard than abortion providers?
Why should out-patient clinics be held to a higher standard than abortion facilities?…
And, please do not say that making abortion providers increase their safety and health standards will limit 'access' because that just simply isn't true. Planned Parenthood is a billion dollar enterprise and Dr Kermit Gosnell had $250,000 IN CASH in his home when the government searched his home. Both could easily pay for their clinics to be as clean and safe as the clinics of veterinarians. Allowing abortion providers to not be subject to ANY regulation is to place the profits of a few above the needs of women...and, you are usually against that. I mean, seriously, if Planned Parenthood was named Koch Brothers Health, you'd be all over it with thousands of pages of rules and regulations...you and I both know it.
'I think the (Gallup poll) stats show that generally people support a woman’s right to make this decision for herself….but that doesn’t mean they don’t also struggle with it on many levels.'
- verbaluce on July 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM
I think that is a true statement as to the first trimester. In the second and third, as you can see, the support for abortion rights take a nosedive.
Like the majority of Americans, I oppose second and third trimester abortions. While I would prefer no abortions, I – again, like most Americans – could ‘settle’ for the time being on first trimester abortions remaining legal until science, medicine, and technology catch up. It is not because I fail to believe that life begins at conception; rather, I understand that abortion, like the poor, will always be with us, but reasonable restrictions and the understanding that a foetus’ rights increase as it grows, which is the law by the way, are acceptable. Banning second and third trimester abortions except in the case where a woman’s life or physical health is at grave risk is not something that most Americans oppose.
On the issue of overturning Roe, which isn’t actually controlling law any longer, I think that many people fail to understand what would happen if such did happen. Overturning Roe or Casey would revert abortion law to where it was in 1973: A state issue. It would not ban abortions of any kind.
Abortion laws in the U.S. prior to Roe.
Legal in case of rape
Legal in case of danger to woman's health
Legal in case of danger to woman's health, rape/incest, or likely damaged foetusLegal on request
I would submit that many people think that the choice is black and white. It actually isn’t. Abortion would not become illegal overnight, which I believe is the reason that you see some fairly inconsistent opinions. Americans support bans on second and third trimester abortions, but at the same time, they want Roe and abortion laws to stay the same. I think that they believe - incorrectly - that they can’t have one without the other.
On a personal level, I’m not sure where I come down on overturning Roe and Casey. As I said, I could live – for the time being – with both remaining in place; provided, restrictions could be placed on partial-birth abortion, which is a barbaric, gruesome practise that isn’t even supported in the social democracies of Europe that many want to see the US emulate.
I think the biggest challenge that pro-aborts face is the advancement in science, medicine, and technology. As medical advancements have helped very premature babies (21 weeks) to survive, the American public has pushed back on ‘abortion on-demand’ in all circumstances. The support for abortion has actually fallen with the increase in technology like sonograms and the ability for younger and younger ‘foetuses’ to survive if born prematurely, as Gallup's polls from the 1990s onward indicate:
I think that we can safely say that the more a foetus resembles a human being, the less Americans will support its termination. As I wrote above regarding a truism that even Marx and Engels recognised, human compassion and identification increases with relation and solidarity. The more people are alike, the more they are willing to share and work for the common good. The more a foetus looks like a human, the more that humans will identify with it.
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