Fauxcahontas today:
'We must DESTROY ISIS!'
Fauxcahontas...a month ago:
'It’s a complicated situation right now in Iraq and the president has
taken very targeted actions to provide humanitarian relief that the
Iraqi government requested, and to protect American citizens. But
like the president I believe that any solution in Iraq is going to be a
negotiated solution, not a military
solution. We do not want to be
pulled into another war in Iraq.'
'Cuz, like,
um, ya know, we can negotiate with members of misogynistic, racist,
homophobic, bigoted, child-abusing, xenophobic, tribalistic,
antisemitic, Christophobic, maniacal, thin-skinned, nihilistic,
homicidal, suicidal, totalitarian, 7th century death cult that beheads
children for fun!
For a 'negotiated solution' to ever work, the
parties to it must have compassion, empathy, and basic human
understanding. ISIS lacks all of these, which is why its members can
behead someone that they have held hostage for months. For even most
harden criminals, it becomes more and more difficult to execute a
hostage the longer that they have the hostage in custody because they
tend bond with them and see them, even negligibly, as a human being.
These
fanatics are missing that capability, which just further explains why
#hashtag diplomacy, negotiations, economic sanctions, ‘naming and
shaming’ will NEVER WORK.
These people are immune
to all of that and only understand one thing: The sword.
And, Fauxcahontas is quite late to that realisation.
She isn't the only one either...
'Do not believe ISIL is "manageable," agree these terrorists must be chased to the "gates of hell"
— Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (@SenatorShaheen) September 3, 2014
'I was troubled by the President’s recent suggestion that the
Administration has not yet developed a comprehensive strategy to address
the growing threat of ISIL’s activities in Syria. One American who went to high school in Minnesota has been confirmed
to have been killed in Syria while fighting with ISIL, and others have
traveled there to fight with ISIL as well. We must act diligently and
responsibly to prevent Americans from taking up arms with ISIL, or from
reentering if they do.'
- Senator Al Franken in letter to Attorney General Eric Holder
Maybe, Democrats' 'Road to Damascus' transition is really the result of the reality of this:
As he waffles on U.S. policy toward terrorists in Syria dubbed ISIS, President Obama is being handed rare American support for a military attack against the terrorists, according to a new poll.In its latest survey, YouGov.com finds that the nation has done a 180 in just a year, and now supports military action by nearly four to one.Some 63 percent of Americans back a Pentagon strike against the terrorists to 16 percent who don’t. A year ago, those numbers were reversed when Americans were asked about striking Syrian troops commanded by President Bashar Assad, with 60 percent opposing military action and 20 percent supporting it.
In a good way, I think that this poll shows that the American people are actually smarter than those in DC. It wasn't so much a 'war weary nation' that opposed striking Syria last year. It was the asininity of toppling another dictator, who at least kept the barbarians somewhat at bay, while giving a huge assist to Islamists like AQ, al-Nusra Front, ISIS, and the Free Syrian Army, which is now working openly with ISIS, that Americans opposed.
The neo-cons like McCain and Graham failed to grasp this as well when they were demanding that we arm our mortal enemies. They could determine the 'moderate' Islamists...even though those same people are our enemies if they cross into Iraq. Essentially, the difference between a 'terrorist' and a 'freedom fighter' was to be dependent on geography. If you are in Iraq, you are our foe. If you are in Syria, you are our friend.
And, they wonder why the American people have no confidence in them?!?!?!
An incoherent foreign policy and a weak, vacillating POTUS lead to this:
America’s GI “boots on the ground” in Iraq are so frustrated with the White House message about their mission against the Islamic State — which Vice President Biden vowed Wednesday to chase “to the gates of Hell” — that they’re wondering how they’ll accomplish the goal “when we can’t even leave the front gate of our base.”Biden on Wednesday delivered what was probably the toughest statement to date from the administration, declaring, after another U.S. journalist was beheaded by the Islamic State, “we will follow them to the gates of Hell until they are brought to justice.”But his tough talk was at odds with a message delivered earlier in the day by President Obama, who said that while his administration’s goal is to “destroy” ISIS — it also is to “shrink” it to a “manageable problem.”Amid the mixed messages, a source in contact with special operators in Iraq told Fox News that “frustration and confusion reign” among Americans on the ground there.The source relayed the complaint of an unnamed special operator: “Chase them to the Gates of Hell? How the [f---] are we going to do that when we can’t even leave the front gate of our base!?”
And, this...
++++++
'The problem with most neo-cons and conservatives is
that they think a change in American policy will somehow make Islamist’s
and the barbarians behave more civil.
Libertarians everywhere reject this position.
Barbarians will be barbarians no matter who is in power Conservative or Liberal.
Therefore there is no need for any interventionist policies.'
- weedisgood on September 4, 2014 at 10:45 AM
As a Libertarian, I’ve made my position on interventionism perfectly clear:
THE MO DOCTRINE1) The United States should only get involved in conflicts abroad where there is a direct and imminent threat to the nation and its security.2) The United States should stay out of civil wars.3) If war is declared upon us, CRUSH, and I mean C-R-U-S-H, the enemy.4) Fight to win or stay home.5) The United States has an abysmal record of siding with despots and propping up tinpot dictators. Know your enemy, your “ally,” recognise self-determination, and MYOB.6) Unless the United States is under attack or imminent threat of attack, the President must get Congressional approval for all actions involving military operations abroad pursuant to Art. I, Sec. 8, Clause 11 and the War Powers Resolution Act.7) When people want to kill each other, let them.
But destroying ISIS is NOT interventionism. It is self-preservation. There is a huge difference.
You’d be wise to learn it.
'At this point you are playing word games. If invading another country half way around the world is self preservation to you then I guess we can agree to disagree.'
- weedisgood on September 4, 2014 at 11:01 AM
- weedisgood on September 4, 2014 at 11:01 AM
Nice
strawman you've got there. Who is calling for an invasion? If we did,
in fact, send troops back into Iraq, it would be with the cooperation
of the Baghdad government and the Kurds. That is NOT an 'invasion'. An
'invitation' isn't an 'invasion'.
Islamists must be destroyed before they destroy us. For you and anyone else who doubts that this can or will happen, I have 1,400 white girls in Rotherham for you to speak with and a bunch of evidence from around the world for you to read.
You people think this can all be contained and it is only a regional issue. Please. Such thinking is so 10 September 2001.
It is not limited to a region. If Islamism could be contained within a geographic region, we’d be having a different conversation. It can’t…and, thanks to a lot of people in the West, who have encouraged massive immigration from the ME, northern Africa, and southeast Asia – and, I’m SPECIFICALLY looking at the ‘Rub their noses in diversity’ crew like Mssrs Mandelson, Blair, Miliband, and Balls – it has become ‘a threat to civilisation itself’.
Do not forget that both James Foley and Steven Sotloff were beheaded by a Brit, who has been celebrated by the same people in the UK that cheered the beheading of Lee Rigby, a soldier, on a British street.
Do not forget that Canadians have died fighting for IS and 3 of them were responsible for the kidnapping and torture of 2 American journalists, Theo Curtis and Matt Schrier, in Syria.
Do not forget that 16% of the French population - that's 10.6 million people, for those keeping score at home - support IS.
Do not forget that at least 3 Americans - two of whom attended the same high school in Minnesota - have died fighting for IS.
Islamists must be destroyed before they destroy us. For you and anyone else who doubts that this can or will happen, I have 1,400 white girls in Rotherham for you to speak with and a bunch of evidence from around the world for you to read.
You people think this can all be contained and it is only a regional issue. Please. Such thinking is so 10 September 2001.
It is not limited to a region. If Islamism could be contained within a geographic region, we’d be having a different conversation. It can’t…and, thanks to a lot of people in the West, who have encouraged massive immigration from the ME, northern Africa, and southeast Asia – and, I’m SPECIFICALLY looking at the ‘Rub their noses in diversity’ crew like Mssrs Mandelson, Blair, Miliband, and Balls – it has become ‘a threat to civilisation itself’.
Do not forget that both James Foley and Steven Sotloff were beheaded by a Brit, who has been celebrated by the same people in the UK that cheered the beheading of Lee Rigby, a soldier, on a British street.
Do not forget that Canadians have died fighting for IS and 3 of them were responsible for the kidnapping and torture of 2 American journalists, Theo Curtis and Matt Schrier, in Syria.
Do not forget that 16% of the French population - that's 10.6 million people, for those keeping score at home - support IS.
Do not forget that at least 3 Americans - two of whom attended the same high school in Minnesota - have died fighting for IS.
UPDATE:
While the world waits for the Leader of the Free World to articulate something remotely resembling a coherent strategy regarding the Islamic State, self-satisfied White House flacks cleverly remind that the administration’s overarching foreign policy is “don’t do stupid s***.” (Kissinger wishes he were as deep.)This wins the prize for galactic obtuseness. The flacks’ brilliant hero cancels missile defense for Eastern Europe, naively presents Russia with a “reset” button, touts his post-election “flexibility” to Medvedev, and then is flummoxed when the rapacious Putin sees a green light to reconstitute the former Soviet Union.Obama utterly squanders an historic opportunity to change the calculus in the Middle East by supporting the nascent Green Revolution, engages in transparently futile negotiations with madmen intent on developing nuclear weapons, and now Iran is on the verge of becoming the most dangerous country in the world.Our sophisticated president leads from behind in Libya, ignores the ensuing chaos — even when it results in the deaths of four Americans – and now that country has devolved into a terrorist safe haven with mountains of sophisticated weaponry (and possibly even eleven weaponized airliners) at the disposal of al-Qaeda affiliates.The visionary commander-in-chief insouciantly declares the Iraq War over and the country stable, fails to negotiate a status-of-forces agreement, and pulls out all U.S. troops from the theater. As predicted by less enlightened souls, the country implodes, thousands are killed, the region destabilizes, and America’s enemies are on the march.In Afghanistan, he telegraphs the withdrawal date to the enemy and, well, see above . . .He draws a red line in Syria, erases it, and is caught off-guard when bad actors from the Islamic State to Putin see that as an invitation to adventurism. Yet, as conflicts erupt in every corner of the planet, he slashes the military to levels not seen in more than 80 years.Intelligence experts, including some of the administration’s own national-security team, say foreign threats to the homeland have never been greater.Nowhere in the world are American interests better off than they were at the outset of this administration. Nowhere are we more respected. Nowhere are we more feared.Don’t do stupid s*** indeed. This administration’s foreign policy — to the extent one can be discerned — is better described by another blunt phrase:
Stuck on stupid.
