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08 February 2013

Hey, Remember When It Was Crazy NOT To Politicise Mass Murder? (A Stroll Down Progs' Blame Palin, Etc., Memory Lane)








Markos Moulitsas's Daily Kos placed a "bulls eye" on Gabby Giffords, as well as a primary target in 2008





Considering the cries of Progressives today for everyone to refrain from connecting Christopher Dorner to the Left and the MSM editing out of his manifesto the sections that show where his allegiances lay and only leaving in references to Chris Christie, George H W Bush, and Jon Huntsman, it is instructive to go back and read what many on the Left were saying within HOURS of the Tucson shooting...


The King of the Tinfoil Hat Wearers, Paul Krugman:


“A Democratic Congresswoman has been shot in the head; another dozen were also shot.

We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. She’s been the target of violence before. And for those wondering why a Blue Dog Democrat, the kind Republicans might be able to work with, might be a target, the answer is that she’s a Democrat who survived what was otherwise a GOP sweep in Arizona, precisely because the Republicans nominated a Tea Party activist. (Her father says that “the whole Tea Party” was her enemy.) And yes, she was on Sarah Palin’s infamous “crosshairs” list.

Just yesterday, Ezra Klein remarked that opposition to health reform was getting scary. Actually, it’s been scary for quite a while, in a way that already reminded many of us of the climate that preceded the Oklahoma City bombing.

You know that Republicans will yell about the evils of partisanship whenever anyone tries to make a connection between the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc. and the violence I fear we’re going to see in the months and years ahead. But violent acts are what happen when you create a climate of hate. And it’s long past time for the GOP’s leaders to take a stand against the hate-mongers. 

Update: I see that Sarah Palin has called the shooting “tragic”. OK, a bit of history: right-wingers went wild over anyone who called 9/11 a tragedy, insisting that it wasn’t a tragedy, it was an atrocity. 

Update: I’m going to take down comments on this one; they would need a lot of moderating, because the crazies are coming out in force, and it’s all too likely to turn into a flame war.



And, Markos Moulitas, who targeted Gabby Giffords with crosshairs in 2008, tweeted:


“If Palin's crosshair effort was excusable, why has her PAC scrubbed her site of that page?  Arizona sheriff investigating assassination went on rant about right-wing hate radio rhetoric. He shouldn't have gone there?   

F***ing American Taliban

Sharron Angle's first amendment remedies, in action. That rhetoric MATTERS.

Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin,http://is.gd/knNgl



Moulitas targeted Giffords.  Of course, he continued on...


"We have always been an uncivil society. Just ask John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. But being harsh and passionate in one's political discourse isn't the same as walking around with guns intimidating the opposition, or using apocalyptic and Armageddon-style rhetoric to paint your opponents as terrorists and enemies of democracy and freedom. Problem is, we now have a side that is gun-obsessed, whipping people up into a frenzy with lies about Obama taking their guns away and interning conservatives in FEMA concentration camps (to name just two conspiracy theories).

When Sarah Palin tells her followers not to retreat, but to "reload," when Sharron Angle says people should resort to "Second Amendment remedies" if they don't get their way at the ballot box, and when Glenn Beck spreads the latest insane conspiracy theory, well then, it's only a matter of time before people start getting killed."


And, he STILL didn't stop...


“How dare people ‘politicize’ a political assassination!”



And, the far-left loon, Jane Hamsher, at Firedoglake.com (emphasis hers):


Fuck it. I’m going there

Back in September:

Twenty House Dems from districts that McCain carried in 2008 voted for the health care bill, and Sarah Palin has a target on every single one.

The targets were released on the six month anniversary of Obamacare, and include a lot of familiar names such as John Boccieri (OH), Chris Carney (P N) Gabrielle Giffords (AZ) and Ann Kirpatrick (AZ). The site invites donations, social networking, and the unbeatable Sarah love that has led to a 26:11 win/loss record of candidates in GOP primaries. Granted, some of those were in safe districts, but she’s also pulled off massive upsets that probably outshadow her less successful picks.

Regardless, this site should go a long way towards knocking off the politicians who put their party affiliation ahead of their constituent’s demands. It was announced via a tweet from SarahPalinUSA: “Lies, Damned Lies – Obamacare 6 Months Later; It’s Time to Take Back the 20!”


Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: “Don’t Retreat, Instead – RELOAD!” Pls see my Facebook page.


"Metaphor, no more…"

 

And, Matthew Ygelsias of the Centre for American Progress tweeted:


Rep. Michele Bachmann: "I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous" to block climate change legislation.



And, Congressman Raul Grijalva:


“[When] you stoke these flames, and you go to public meetings and you scream at the elected officials, you threaten them – you make us expendable you make us part of the cannon fodder. For a while, you’ve been feeding this hatred, this division… you feed it, you encourage it….Something’s going to happen. People are feeding this monster…. Some of the extreme right wing has made demonization of elected officials their priority.”





"Sarah Palin using gun play language. What is she talking about crosshairs and reloading...and Bachmann out there with her kind of talk.   



And, Mr BOTingles, Dance…continued:


“You use words that mean certain things, and then those certain things happen, and you wonder, Should I have used those words? I think most people would think like that. Governor Palin has yet to say she shouldn’t have talked like this.What did she mean to do when she had a target — put up these crosshairs? No matter what she says, that’s what they are — put these crosshairs– we’re looking at the map now of various congressional people she wanted taken out, if you will. And then she used the word “bulls eyes” that day and talked about reloading that day. It’s clear she was using this ballistic language. Why did she use that? Is this cowgirl? Is this Annie Oakley stuff? What is it?”



And, Piers Morgan:


"In her haste to take no responsibility, [Palin] didn't even bother to pick the phone up, to write, to do anything. I find that extraordinary."



And, Mark Kelly:


'Yeah, I was surprised too. You know, certainly the targets that she put over Gabby's and other people's districts, in our opinion, was not the right thing to do. She is not the first person to do that. And it hasn't always been Republicans that have done that.  You know, this was no surprise to us.  Gabby even spoke about it before January 8th, during the election cycle, leading up to the election, in an interview... She made is very clear that, hey, this is what's going on, and this could ultimately incite people to do violent things.  So it wasn't a big surprise on January 8th.”





The Palin-ites are likely busy trying to remove all trace of this graphic from the web, but NEVER FORGET: http://bit.ly/hbKNkJ



And, Robert F Kennedy, Jr, not only blamed the "extremist vitriol" of the "right-wing hatred and violence," he claimed that " radioactive preachers and political leaders, and local businessmen" for "setting the stage" and "inciting" Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate his Uncle Jack:


"Neither Beck, Hannity nor Savage nor the hate merchants at Fox News and talk radio can claim to have invented their genre. Toxic right-wing vitriol so dominated the public airwaves from the McCarthy era until 1963 that President Kennedy, that year, launched a citizen's campaign to enforce the Fairness Doctrine, which required accuracy and balance in the broadcast media. Students, civic and religious groups filed more than 500 complaints against right-wing extremists and hate-mongering commentators before the FCC.

The Dallas, Texas, airwaves were particularly radioactive; preachers and political leaders and local businessmen spewed extremist vitriol on the city's radio and TV stations, inflaming the passions of the city's legions of unhinged fanatics. There was something about the city -- a rage or craziness, that, whether sensible or not, seemed to have set the stage for Jack's murder. 
...

Uncle Jack's speech in Dallas was to have been an explosive broadside against the right wing.  

Jack had received myriad warnings against visiting the right-wing Texas city. Indeed, there had been a sense of foreboding even within our family as he and Aunt Jackie prepared for the trip. Jack made an unscheduled trip to Cape Cod to say goodbye to my ailing grandfather. The night before the trip, Mummy found Jack distant and brooding at a dinner for the Supreme Court Justices. He was very fond of Mummy, but for the first time ever, he looked right through her.

Jack's death forced a national bout of self-examination. In 1964, Americans repudiated the forces of right-wing hatred and violence with an historic landslide in the presidential election between LBJ and Goldwater. For a while, the advocates of right-wing extremism receded from the public forum. Now they have returned with a vengeance -- to the broadcast media and to prominent positions in the political landscape.

Gabrielle Giffords lies in a hospital room fighting for her life, and a precious nine-year-old girl is dead along with five others. Let's pray for them and for our country and hope this tragedy prompts another round of examination of conscience."



And, Inspector Vajayjay, Andrew Sullivan:


"We don’t know who killed congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and we should be very cautious in drawing any conclusions yet about why. But we can know that, whoever killed her and for whatever reason, political rhetoric involving words like “target” and “gun-sights” is inherently irresponsible.

For a public figure who has appeared on a national ticket and who commands a cult-like following, the irresponsibility is even more profound. And so one reads the following sentences from the Arizona Wildcat last September with the blood draining from one’s face:

Palin Reloads; Aims For Giffords

Earlier this year, Palin drew sharp criticism for featuring a map on her web page riddled with crosshairs targeting Democrats in vulnerable congressional districts. Tucson’s Gabrielle Giffords is among the 20 Democratic incumbents whom Palin intends to use for target practice.

Giffords was one of twenty members of Congress placed within metaphorical “gun-sights” in SarahPac’s graphic. That is not the same thing as placing a gun-sight over someone’s face or person. No one can possibly believe – or should – that Sarah Palin is anything but horrified by what has taken place. But it remains the kind of rhetorical excess which was warned about at the time, and which loners can use to dreadful purposes. It is compounded by the kind of language used by the Arizona Wildcat as well. Maybe “Palin Reloads; Aims For Giffords” is good copy as a headline. But next time, an editor should surely pause before enabling forces whose capacity for violence is real.



And, Jane Fonda:


@Janefonda: Progressive Arizona Rep Gabrielle Giffords is shot. In her ads, Sarah Palin had her targeted in a gun site. Inciting to violence. 

@Janefonda: Glen Beck guilty too. Shame. It must stop! 

@Janefonda: Violence against 1 woman is violence against every woman. So let all women commit 2 stopping this radical violence. NOW #VAW #tucsonshooting 

@Janefonda: It isn’t enough that Palin just removed the map of Giffords district with gun crosshairs off her website. She holds responsibility 

@Janefonda: @SarahPalinUSA holds responsibility. As does the violence-provoking rhetoric of the Tea Party





“If Sarah Palin … does not repudiate her own part, however tangential, in amplifying violence and violent imagery in American politics, she must be dismissed from politics, she must be repudiated by the members of her party.  If they fail to do so, each one of them must be judged to have silently defended this tactic that today proves so awfully foretelling, and they in turn must be dismissed by the responsible members of their own party."





"We will not because tonight what Mrs. Palin and what Mr. Kelly and what Congressman West and what Ms. Angle and what Mr. Beck and what Mr. O'Reilly and what you and I must understand was that the man who fired today did not fire at a Democratic Congresswoman and her supporters. He was not just a madman incited by 1,000 daily temptations by slightly less madmen to do things they would not rationally condone."



And, Liberal political consultant and blogger, John Aravosis:


“Well, McCain’s running mate did put a rifle target on the woman, so not surprising McCain is forced to make nice."



And, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik Dipshit,  a Democrat who had had previous knowledge of Jared Loughner's mental problems and did nothing:


“When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government, the anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous.  Let me say one thing, because people tend to pooh-pooh this business about all the vitriol that we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that. That may be free speech, but it’s not without consequences.” 





“Yeah…the whole Tea Party.”



And, former Democratic Presidential candidate and Senator, Gary Hart:


“Today we have seen the results of this rhetoric.  Those with a megaphone, whether provided by public office or a media outlet, have responsibilities. They cannot avoid the consequences of their blatant efforts to inflame, anger, and outrage. We all know that there are unstable and potentially dangerous people among us. To repeatedly appeal to their basest instincts is to invite and welcome their predictable violence.  So long as we all tolerate this kind of irresponsible and dangerous rhetoric or, in the case of some commentators, treat it with delight, reward it, and consider it cute, so long will we place all those in public life, whom the provocateurs dislike, in the crosshairs of danger.”



And, Congressman Jerry Nadler:


“I hope that people who are thinking of making intemperate and violent statements will think twice.”



And, here's Peter Singer, who believes that parents should be able to kill their babies up to 2 years of age and sex with animals can be most beneficial to both humans and animals:


"To me the more significant aspect is that we allow people to get guns so easily, and not just any guns but semi-automatics, which can kill a large number of people in a very short time. That seems to me to be completely insane, and the U.S. is the only developed country in the world that does it. I think the NRA has blood on its hands, clearly. If those weapons were not available, maybe one or two people would have been killed, but not six or seven, as it may turn out to be. So I think that's the issue that the U.S. really needs to look at. I think that's been obvious for a very long time but this just shows it very clearly.

If you're referring to heated political rhetoric, I think some of the rhetoric has been crazily over-the-top, and
there are a lot of people in the U.S. who hold what I think are nutty views about the dangers of government providing health care, for example - once again every developed country in the world except the U.S. provides health care to all its citizens, and I think those countries are just as free as the U.S. So I think there are a lot of crazy views out there and yes, there is a problem with that."





"Inflammatory and vitriolic words are a form of violence. In many wisdom traditions, speech that is imbued with compassion and love is used as a form of healing. It's time for us to pause and reflect. Our society today has the unmistakable symptoms of inflammatory disease with violence and hostility at home and war abroad. How long can we live with this sickness? Do we want our children to grow up in an environment that nurtures their joy and creativity or one that suffocates their soul? Can we start our healing process with civil speech while maintaining our civil liberties?"
  


And, Howard Fineman:


"I - having seen her play with the, with the gun analogy, I'm not going to cut her that much slack here.  I saw her last spring in New Orleans, and she did the - in front of a Republican audience of grassroots hardcore people saying, ‘We're not gonna retreat, we're gonna reload.’  Okay, now, I know she said, ‘Hey, that doesn't mean anything.’  To those people, that was dog whistle politics to those people.    And it involves Second Amendment rights, it involves the whole mythology and reality of guns. She knew exactly what she was playing with here. That doesn't mean she's in any way responsible for this. To underscore that, okay? But that's the thing that she's playing around with here, and she darn well knows what she's doing.”



And, Matt Lauer:


"Sarah Palin has been coming under some criticism. While there is no evidence her Web site featuring a target on Giffords' district had anything to do with this attack, some are asking if today's political rhetoric is inspiring the lunatic fringe?"





“While there is no indication that this suspect was inspired...by political speech…The attack has reopened criticism of the way Palin targeted Gabby Giffords and 19 other Democrats in last year's campaign…After Giffords was shot a liberal blogger on The Daily Kos took down his recent criticism of Giffords. He had written that she was quote, 'dead to him' for voting against Nancy Pelosi as Democratic leader last week."





“This shooting came with the state of our politics seemingly nastier than ever. And rightly or wrongly fingers are being pointed today and one of those coming under criticism is Sarah Palin.”



And, CNN.com:


“As of Saturday, Arizona Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' name appeared on a website titled "take back the 20" as part of a list originally issued by Sarah Palin of vulnerable House Democrats. A map on the site showed crosshairs over the contested Democratic districts.  Palin first posted the list in March 2010, naming 20 House members who voted for health care reform and represented districts that Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona won in the 2008 presidential election.”



And, Jessica Yellin:


“[Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik condemned what he called] the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government… singled out some of the political rhetoric, as you point out, in creating the environment that allowed this kind of instance to happen.  Even though, as you point out, this suspect is not cooperating with investigators, so we don't know the motive.  President Obama also delivered that message, saying it's partly the political rhetoric that led to this. 

So that's why we want to bring up one of the themes that's burning up the social media right now.  On Twitter and Facebook, there is a lot of talk, in particular, about Sarah Palin.  As you might recall, back in March of last year, when the health care vote was coming to the floor of the House and this was all heating up, Palin tweeted out a message on Twitter saying 'common sense conservatives, don't retreat -- instead reload.'  And she referred folks to her Facebook page.  On that Facebook page was a list of Democratic members she was putting in crosshairs, and Gabrielle Giffords was one of those in the crosshairs.

[Palin] posted a statement on Facebook saying that 'my sincere condolences are offered to the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and other victims of today's tragic shooting in Arizona.  On behalf of Todd and my family, we all pray for the victims and their families and for peace and justice.'

And I should point out that Republican leaders in Washington have said that this is not a partisan issue, this is about violence, as have some tea party groups.  But clearly this is a moment to talk about our political rhetoric.

There is no evidence that this was even inspired by rage over health care, broadly.  So there is no overt connection between Sarah Palin, health care, and the [shootings].""



And, Wolf Blitzer:


“But the question is, is there any evidence that the suspected shooter in this particular case was a Sarah Palin fan, read Sarah Palin's website, was a member on Facebook, watched her tweets, or anything like that?”





"Congresswoman Giffords had received threats before (including) when she showed up on Sarah Palin's political action committee Web site as one of those who had been targeted for defeat, it shows her in the cross hairs there."

“You know, Congresswoman Giffords had received threats before. That's something that we might have overlooked here. Her office was trashed during the health care debate. When she showed up on Sarah Palin's political action committee Web site as one of those who had been targeted for defeat, it shows her in the cross hairs there. She warned herself that this kind of thing could have serious repercussions.”



And, Kelly O’Donnell:


“Giffords, a conservative Democrat, was concerned about heated campaign rhetoric from the Tea Party.”





“Congresswoman Gabby Giffords liked to joke that her district includes Tombstone and the OK Corral. Until yesterday morning, most people here would have said that rogue gunslingers were part of the distant past. On election night in November, 18 of the politicians in the cross hairs of Sarah Palin's political action committee lost, but not Gabby Giffords....

In 2009 after one of her town hall meetings on health care reform, they found a gun someone had left behind. Last March after Congress passed health care reform, someone shot out the glass door of her Tucson office. In the midterms when Palin's PAC put her district literally in the cross hairs, Giffords strongly objected to that imagery.”





“And that’s the least that she has to do. She went much too far in her use of incendiary, violent imagery. Did she mean to incite anyone to violence? I’m sure she didn’t, and it’s not clear that she did.  But that language, that rhetoric, that imagery can certainly go too far. And all she had to do was say, I wish I hadn’t said that. I am so sorry that this happened. I shouldn’t have used that language, those images. And she hasn’t done that.”



And, Joan Walsh:


“UPDATED AGAIN: #Giffords was on Palins target map: http://usat.ly/e4NSjp Now shot http://bit.ly/dMXLyO 2nd Amendment remedy?”





“But anyone with any sense at all knows that violent language can incite actual violence, that metaphor can incite murder. At the very least, Palin added to a climate of violence.  And, now that Palin may have the blood of more than some poor caribou on her hands, I wonder if she will continue putting people in cross hairs and calling on folks to RELOAD!”





“Palin leveled a cold-eyed outrage at ‘people attempting to apportion blame for this terrible event.’ Palin’s self-defense seems aimed at [Giffords]. On Saturday, [Giffords] fell into the crosshairs of a gun that sent a 22-cent bullet into the back of her head exiting over her left eye. She is therefore unable to respond to Sarah Palin tonight.”





“Sarah Palin. She hasn’t come out of her cave up there in Alaska. Sarah bin Palin, should we call her? But she has issued a video!  Talk about making your head explode. . . . Sarah Palin is trying to conflate her being accused of this crime as being some kind of an incredible victim, as if for a thousand years, well, I mean, I don’t want to get into hyperbole here, but I just, I find this astounding.”



And, State Rep. James Byrd Wyoming House of Representatives (D):


“Sarah Palin will have to defend her actions and comments to the public. Purposely divisive actions and comments for the sole intent of polarizing the people like Ms Palin exploits, I hope never become a standard of the political process.”



And, State Sen. Will Espero Hawaii State Senator (D):


“Sarah Palin’s Take Back the 20 website has backfired big time, and in hindsight, using a bulls-eye on a political opponent’s district is juvenile and very improper for a woman of her stature.   Making a connection between Sarah Palin’s website and style and the Arizona shooting is a huge stretch. However, there is a possibility the shooter could have visited Palin’s Take Back the 20 website. If the shooter is mentally unstable, who knows what could have gone on in his mind.  Sarah Palin should expect criticism. She put herself out there, and must deal with the consequences of her actions.”



And, Elizabeth A. Sherman, Assistant Professor of American Politics, American University:


“Sarah Palin has cultivated her lock and load, Wild West image since the 2008 campaign applauded by her followers since, after all, those in the cross hairs are probably not "real Americans" anyway. Of course most people have not been paying attention to her website, blogs and tweets and are only now justifiably disgusted by what they are seeing and hearing.

Sarah Palin cannot explain away her use of violent imagery and stands exposed as an ardent practitioner of hate politics, getting richer everyday while doing so. Whether the gunman in Tucson was influenced by the fulminations of far-right, anti-government hate-mongers cannot be proved, but we do know that threatening messages and acts against public officials are more common.”



And, Garry South, Democratic consultant, The Garry South Group:


“Palin loves to use gun-related rhetoric and gun-sight cross hairs, I guess to show she's a mama grizzly or that she's "manning up." Whether the crazy guy who committed these shootings was influenced by it or not, Palin's political use of firearm metaphors was wrong, and she should cut it out.”



And, Stephen M. Davidson, Professor of health care management, Boston University’s School of Management:


“The shooter is clearly disturbed. Everything that has come out about him in the last 2 days points to his being unbalanced. Since it is hard to find evidence that he was a member of the far right, however, we shouldn’t push too direct a connection between the militaristic rhetoric on the right and his actions.

Yet, while this guy may at base have a generalized hatred of authority figures, the inescapable fact is he chose a particularly visible government official as his target. Why not the professor or other school officials who kicked him out of the local community college? His grievance against them was much more direct, after all. Did the overheated political rhetoric legitimize government officials as targets? We can’t be sure.”



And, Kevin Pirch, Assistant Professor of Government at Eastern Washington University:


“It is true there is no evidence about the gunman’s motivations right now, but it’s hard to imagine how anyone who was not directly affected by the violence in Tucson deserves an apology right now.  Now, I don’t think any public person who uses words like “revolution” or “take ‘em out” truly mean it, these are rhetorical flourishes used to get in the news, make a name for themselves, and embolden the base to get them out voting and writing campaign checks. However those who speak in this tone need to realize their words also reach people on the fringes of society who might see it as a literal call to arms and not a campaign devise.”



And, Greg Dworkin, Contributing Editor, Daily Kos:


“While it's not fair to accuse Sarah Palin of direct responsibility, Palin has used deliberately "us vs. them" divisive language... she thrives on it.  It is for that reason (and her "RELOAD" statement that has opened her up to the withering criticism, which is deserved.  She's been a spokesperson for that divisive philosophy since 2008, and it's now coming back to haunt her.”



And, David Biespiel, American poet, director, Attic Institute:


“Sarah Palin is the Annie Oakley of American politics. She touts the image of herself as an Alaska pioneer woman. She fetishizes guns, glorifies killing animals, and is easy around the metaphors of lock, load, and re-load.  I mean, man up, Sarah Palin, if you must and take responsibility for your own actions.  In the end, it doesn't matter whether she is or isn't responsible for this weekend's violence in Arizona. She can't control every political kook out there - much as she may inspire them.  But she is responsible for crafting rhetoric and using oratory to advance her causes in a manner that may be confrontational, yes, but also must not be construed as permission - by any kook of any political stripe - to murder public officials and innocent bystanders.”



And, Thomas J. Whalen, Professor of Social Science, Boston University:


“Let's review. Palin and her minions accuse the Obama administration and those who support his health care reform program of setting up "death panels" for the American public. Nope, I can't imagine how that could be considered incendiary or contribute to a toxic political environment whereby a mentally unstable young man might want to lash out against such perceived injustice with a gun.  Seriously, conservative firebrands like Palin have performed the moral equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded movie theater in this matter. And yes, I feel some of the blood is on their hands.”



And, Howard Reiter, President, New England Political Science Association; Professor Emeritus of Political Science, University of Connecticut:


“She owes the American people an apology for lowering the tone of our public discourse.”




Of course, the shock troops 'tards took their marching orders and ran with them.  Here's a sample:
 

"What do you expect from the hatred-spewing accusations common in Townhall articles? This is the result of rabble-rousers like Michelle Malkin and Glenn Beck.   Let me draw the picture for the many dupes out there.   Townhall articles accuse their political enemies of being enemies of this country; they even frequently paint a conspiracy by others (called liberals) to take away our civil rights so they can achieve socialist or communist goals.   Beck and some Townhall writers greatly exaggerate the danger to our civil liberties and property rights and exaggerate the urgency of action to stop those who they accuse of anti-American goals.   The urgency of action, the idea that private property and our country is being stolen provides nuts like today's young man with a rationale for assassination of liberals and liberal leaders."

- Ted Wrote:  Jan 08, 2011 4:37 PM



"The shooting is a result of many factors among which are these:  1. A populist movement that feeds off of fear and hatred of government and anyone branded as "liberal."  2. Individual mental derangement.  3. Easy access to firearms.  4. Holding a political meeting in a public place."

- Ted Wrote:  Jan 08, 2011 4:45 PM



"And count yourself responsible for these deaths."

- Ted Wrote:  Jan 08, 2011 4:48 PM



"You tell me I should be a man for once? or was I threatening Sarah Palin's life? No, I was not threatening Palin, I was saying that she should pay for the virolent remarks that she use's against the President and other Politicians she disagree's with. She is not a stupid woman and I believe she use code words in her speeches to rile up the base. It was only a matter of time before something like this was going to happen and rightfully so she is being blamed for this fiasco. What Politician in their right mind would put "cross hairs" on another candidate head? she knew that the atmoshere in this country, politically, is at an all time high in anger, using words like "lets take back our country", while harmless to most, to some could mean a calling to arms and take action. Rightfully so, she is now being attacked across the country for the words she has grown accustomed to using and in my opinion she has the blood of these individuals on her hands, plus this will damage her chances for the office of POTUS, and rightfully so."

- Dondi Wrote: Jan 09, 2011 6:15 AM



"I hope your satisfied Sarah Palin and Rush Fatbaugh becaus ethe both of you have the blood of these Patriots on your hands and I seriously hope your held accountable for it, an eye for an eye, hand for a hand, Palin will not get away with the virolent rhetoric she is now famous for."

- Dondi Wrote: Jan 09, 2011 1:24 AM



"The left is not blowing this out of proportion because its idiots like Sarah Palin that like to run around painting "Targets" on politicians she don't like so its only a matter of time before some lunatic takes her at her word. Palin has blood on her hands now."

- Dondi Wrote: Jan 09, 2011 1:28 AM



"Dangerous Liberals huh?  Thank Gawd Sarah Palin "targeted" REp. Giffords.  And all those gun lovers in Az couldn't stop a kid with a gun.  The Tea Party has a massacre on their hands."

-  christian Wrote: Jan 08, 2011 2:35 PM



"Glad you listened to our warnings that your "second-amendment solutions" rhetoric would lead to tragedy."

- christian Wrote: Jan 08, 2011 2:40 PM



"Call this what it is. An assassination attempt on a member of Congress while acting as a member of Congress"

- Frank Wrote: Jan 08, 2011 3:25 PM



"Ayn Rand was on their too bozo. He was your typical wacked Libertarian."

- christian Wrote: Jan 08, 2011 5:45 PM


Me: 


"Hey, Christian! You were wrong when you called the guy a Republican. You were wrong when you called the guy a Conservative. You were wrong when you called the guy a Tea Partyer.  He also listed Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto.  So, as a Libertarian, I say, "S.T.F.U.!"


"I was concerned -- that's why your party's violent projections offended and scared me.  While you ignored the ronnas and cottoneyed's here.  The GOP has shown America within a week its idea of governance."

-  christian Wrote:  Jan 08, 2011 4:25 PM



"Goodbye Sarah, Rush, Beck..."

-  christian Wrote:  Jan 08, 2011 4:58 PM



"Very sad  the tea party is responsible"

-  Tyler Wrote: Jan 08, 2011 2:21 PM



"Maybe this tragedy will show just how dangerous some of the ignorant, anti-American, anti-Government, hateful crap is on Townhall."

-  Walker Wrote: Jan 08, 2011 7:08 PM



"Glenn, I doubt it - Probably they will attempt to COVER-UP and defend this terrorist."

-  Planet Earth Wrote: Jan 08, 2011 8:58 PM



"Sarah Palin, this assassination, mass murder and her advertisement targeting Congresswoman Giffords will go hand and hand the rest of her life. Her political career is only. The majority of America will see her for who she is. A horrible, nasty, undereducated and opportunistic woman."

-  Brad Wrote: Jan 08, 2011 8:46 PM



"the sheriff of the county got it right- arizona has been overrun with bigots and racists who are violent and who hate the govt. we need to find out who these people are and root them out. the entire state of arizona should be declared a war zone. it is time to annihilate the american extremist. people lke him are far more dangerous than a like minded individual sitting in a cave in yemen."

-  middle path (formerly togetherness required) Wrote: Jan 09, 2011 6:35 AM


Only ONE Progressive urged much-need caution:



"I don't care very much Palin either....However Sarah Palin is not implicated directly nor indirectly with this Horror...Please Stop !"

-  Sky Pete Wrote: Jan 08, 2011 9:02 PM



And, with that, Sky Pete proved that he was heads and shoulders above the rest of the rabid, hateful Left.


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